Kansas City Leader Lisa Peña – Urban Hiker & Adventure Seeker

[00:00:00.280] – David Maples
To start with, just say your full name.

[00:00:15.900] – Lisa Peña
My full name is Lisa Morela-Peña.

[00:00:18.840] – David Maples
Okay, and what is the name of your business?

[00:00:21.760] – Lisa Peña
Urban Hikes, Kansas City.

[00:00:23.730] – David Maples
Okay, if you were to give us a commercial for Urban Hikes, tell me what it is in a nutshell. What is it?

[00:00:29.430] – Lisa Peña
Yeah, in a nutshell, what we do in Urban Hikes, Kansas City is we take groups of people around
Kansas City to see really cool things. We see art, we talk about the history, and we take them to
places that most people, even from Kansas City, don’t know about. A hike normally lasts about three
hours and it’s about 4-5 miles, but we have shorter hikes as well.

[00:00:50.440] – David Maples
Where did you come up with this idea?

[00:00:52.350] – Lisa Peña
I actually heard about this idea from a podcast. The podcast is called Side Hustle Nation, and they
highlighted somebody named Alex Kinnan, who has her own urban hiking business in San Francisco. I
heard her on the podcast and I was so inspired. I thought this is something I can do in Kansas City. I
love hiking, I love backpacking, and Kansas City is such a cool city. We have hills, we have woods, we
have small businesses, we have art and history. I can have an urban hiking business too.

[00:01:22.240] – David Maples
Tell me a little bit about your background. We’ll talk about how you got in to Kansas City in a minute.
You’re from here, but while you’re still here, et cetera. But tell me what was your journey to starting
this business? Where did you start out? You heard it on a podcast. Why did you decide to do this?

[00:01:36.440] – Lisa Peña
Yeah, my journey, so it definitely was that initial inspiration from the podcast. But I feel like
I’ve been exploring my whole life. When I think about growing up in Kansas City, I grew up in Kansas
City, Kansas, and there are woods right behind my house, and I always went to the woods. I would just
go to the woods. I would play in the woods. I would walk in the woods. If my friends came over, I
would take them to the woods. It was one of the favorite things to do. I didn’t know that that was
hiking. No one even took me hiking as a child. I started doing that as a young kid. Then when I was in
high school and college, I really had this idea of exploration, but it was more international exploring. I
went into Peace Corps after college. Being in Peace Corps just put me in front of all different
situations and I felt like it prepared me for almost anything in my life. Later, I was in the nonprofit
world when I came back to Kansas City because working in Peace Corps and working with these
important social issues, I came back to Kansas City and I felt like it was so important to do that.
That’s when I worked in the nonprofit world. That was when I got the idea to do urban hiking. I was
working full-time at Girl Scouts, and I love Girl Scouts. I was actually the person who represented Girl
Scouts with the Hispanic community. I looked for bilingual, not bilingual, but Spanish speaking moms
who wanted to be troop leaders. But at the same time, I was like, I could have a side hustle. There
could be something else I could do on the side. That’s how it all originated.

[00:03:03.880] – David Maples
You mentioned the Girl Scouts in particular. Was that a big deal for you growing up? Were you
involved with the Girl Scouts at all?

[00:03:09.930] – Lisa Peña
I actually wasn’t involved in Girl Scouts when I was growing up. I almost feel like I was because I
worked there for five years as an adult, so I really understand the programs and I see how valuable
they are. But I think where I grew up in Kansas City, Kansas, I don’t really remember knowing any girls
in Girl Scouts, actually.

‘[00:03:27.660] – David Maples
It’s a…It’s interesting. You had an international event. Where did you go internationally, et cetera, when
you were in the Peace Corps, et cetera?

[00:03:37.460] – Lisa Peña
I went to the Dominican Republic. Then I lived a total of five years there. Normally, the Peace Corps
time is just two years. I really liked it, so I stayed for a third year in Peace Corps, and then I lived there
at a different time in my life for two more years.

[00:03:52.950] – David Maples
What brought you back to Kansas City?

[00:03:56.000] – Lisa Peña
I came back to Kansas City because it’s always been my home and my family was here. That was the
main reason why I came to Kansas City. I think that if my family wasn’t in Kansas City, then maybe I
would have gone somewhere else. But because my family was here, that really brought me back.

[00:04:14.370] – David Maples
What have you seen? You grew up here. Where did you go to high school?

[00:04:19.860] – Lisa Peña
I went to Sumner Academy.

[00:04:21.320] – David Maples
Okay, so you grew up here, you went to high school here. How have you seen Kansas City changed
since you were a child?

[00:04:31.430] – Lisa Peña
Kansas City has changed so much. I remember when I was little, I always noticed downtown, but I
never really went there. My dad worked in downtown, but it wasn’t a place that my family would take
us to go. Now there are so many places that in downtown for families to go to. For example, Union
Station, Liberty Memorial have changed so much since my childhood. Then the places in between
Liberty Memorial and the river market, all of that area, the Crossroads Art district, even the river
market has changed so much with lots of businesses, with murals everywhere. I would have loved to
go as a child to see murals just walking on the street and see mural after mural. We have that now
and families come out to see it. I think about the local businesses as well, how downtown is filled with
local businesses in Kansas City in general. It’s filled with local businesses. However, when I was
younger, what I remember were just more the big box companies.

[00:05:32.710] – David Maples
Now, what ways are you contributing to make Kansas City a better place to live, play, and work?

[00:05:40.430] – Lisa Peña
My team and I show off Kansas City. I feel like we bring mainly Kansas Citians on our urban hikes.
You would think it might be tourists, but the majority of the people who come on our urban hikes are
from Kansas City. We’re showing people what is here. Often still people won’t go to areas if they aren’t
comfortable going there or don’t know how to get there or don’t know how to walk around, and we
solve that for them. We say, Meet us at this point, and then we’re walking around for three hours, and
then they’re able to come back and enjoy those places on their own.

[00:06:13.830] – David Maples
Is there something not to give away too much, but on your hikes, is there something that like, Kansas
City and say, Oh, my gosh, wow, I can’t believe that’s here. I had no idea. I’ve lived here my entire life,
and I have no idea that’s here. Is there something in particular you’d say, Man, this is really cool. You
should check this out.

[00:06:33.000] – Lisa Peña
Definitely. That’s one of the most fulfilling things that people say to us on our urban hikes that just
fills me up and we hear it all the time. Observation Park is a park that is really high up in the west side
and it has a really nice view of downtown that most people haven’t seen. Almost everyone I take up
there says exactly that. Well, I didn’t know that was here. Kau Point Park is at the confluence of the
Kansas and the Missouri River. That place is almost magical. It’s surrounded by this industrial area,
but you get to the park and there are native flowers that are planted there. There’s a trail. You actually
see the two rivers converging and you can tell that they’re converging. They look different. You see the
Kansas City and Missouri skyline. We take people there. We have a regular Caw Point Urban hike, and
most of those folks who go haven’t ever been there before.

[00:07:25.810] – David Maples
Any of these things that Lisa is mentioning right now will be listed below in the show notes. If you are
listening to this on Spotify, or Apple, or Google Podcasts, etc, if you go to Leaders KC and go to this
particular show, you’ll see in the notes, we’ll have links out to those websites in those places, along
with links to this company as well. Taking a little bit of a change of gears a little bit here, what is one
particular… You run the Peace Corps, for example. What is one particular… This is your company now.
Is there one particular initiative or project that you’ve been involved with in Kansas City since you’ve
been back here that you’re particularly proud of or something you’re very proud the city has done?

[00:08:09.520] – Lisa Peña
I think about projects in the city. When I think about something that the city has done, I think having
the streetcar is something that it’s pretty amazing that we have it because I grew up when the
streetcar was not here. The fact that it’s here and then it’s actually extremely useful and then it keeps
growing. I think of that. Then I would say another project that I’m so proud of the city for doing, city
and individual people is the renovation of Union Station. As I mentioned, when I was a child, I never
went to Union Station unless we went to pick up someone who came on the train. We didn’t see it in
its full beauty like you see it now at all. There was only a small portion that was open if you came on
the train and that was it. There are pictures in Union Station where it was dilapidated. Paint was
coming off. There’s water on the floor. I’ve talked to hikers and they say that… I’ve talked to someone
who snuck in in the 90s, and he said that there was pigeon poop up to his calves at Union Station. It
was bad. There was the threat to tear it down. But because of a by-state tax in Kingston, Missouri,
that provided funding to remodel it. Now it’s this beautiful place like it was before, and they have a lot
more streams of income. That’s one of the things, though, that so many people, like 2000 and on,
have enjoyed it, and they don’t even know the history how it almost wasn’t there.

[00:09:37.980] – David Maples
It’s something interesting you mentioned. A lot of times it’s funny when you go around. If you go to
Nashville, they have a full-scale replica of the Parthenon in Greece in a park in Nashville, Tennessee,
and it’s just like in the middle of nowhere. The reason I was thinking about this the other day is
because they did that in 1903 or something like that, or 1899. It’s a long time ago, right? When you
look at these big projects, they require a community approach. They require the city, the individuals to
get involved. It’s not just one person because these are large investments. One of the things, as I’ve
visited Kansas City before I moved here, I was really impressed with Union Station in particular
because I knew that that’s not a small project. Just the fact that the city got behind that and actually
took action, I thought, was really said a lot about, I think, the Kansas City community. I think that was
really neat. Speaking about these things, obviously, all cities and urban environments have their
challenges. What unique challenges or opportunities do you see for Kansas City in the coming years?

[00:10:46.570] – Lisa Peña
When I think about the different opportunities that Kansas City has, one thing I think about is how
once you’re in Kansas City, you’re like, This is the coolest, kept secret ever. You might have even
thought that yourself. You came to Kansas City and you’re like, This is so cool here. But a lot of people
are starting to notice people are moving in. A lot of people are moving in. We’re growing. We have all
these things. I think it definitely is an opportunity for us too, as a city, to be able to keep up with all the
new people who move in, to keep up to have everything so that it really remains the coolest city
around that you feel like it is when you move here. I think that’s something as just to be able to have…
There’s a lot of development and for it to go well and to keep the… Also another thing I would think
about that’s a really important opportunity is there’s a lot of development in the older areas like the
West Botoms, and it’s really important to be able to keep some of those historic buildings if that’s
possible. I know that that might require more of an investment, but that’s something that is so
important too, so that history just doesn’t get torn down and then you see it and then you see newer
buildings instead.

[00:11:59.660] – David Maples
One of the things I was really drawn, one of the reasons I really wanted you on the show was we had
Jan Jensen, who’s involved in the art community here in town on the show, and she raved about one
of your hikes. I said, Man, this sounds like a really good way to get a whole group of people together
and foster community within them and share these things that are physical, outdoor experience. I just
wanted to know how your approach to Urban Hikes KC, how have your personal experiences or things
you’ve learned in your life shaped what you’re putting into this endeavor?

[00:12:34.210] – Lisa Peña
I think it really helps me that I went to Peace Corps and I lived in an environment that I wasn’t used to.
For example, I lived in the countryside in a completely Dominican community, and I was the only
American around. It feels different to do that. When we’re on our urban hikes, I will often take us to
places that we wouldn’t normally go on our own. For example, today I was even preparing for a hike
that I have on Saturday with a group, and we’re going to go along Independence Avenue and we’re
going to the different international stores that are there. There is a Somali coffee shop called the
Haymar-Wayne coffee shop that has amazing food and we’re going to eat food there. However, when
you walk in, it really feels like possibly even like a bus station inside a different country. That’s what I
feel like when I go in. It doesn’t even feel like a Kansas City building on the inside. Often in the US, we
might shy away from those experiences because it feels a little bit uncomfortable. It’s out of our
comfort zone. But I really like to take groups just a little bit out of their comfort zone so that they can
experience something new and then come back on their own because they know, Well, I was out of
my comfort zone, but look, it was a great experience.

[00:13:50.280] – David Maples
That coffee shop in particular, I’d like to do a shout out to them on the show. What’s the name of the
shop again?

[00:13:56.800] – Lisa Peña
It’s called the Hamar Wayne Coffee Shop, and it’s in a shopping center called Soma Retail, S-O-M-A. It
is on Independence Avenue.

[00:14:08.950] – David Maples
Okay. See, that’s one thing I want to know about. We saw there was an Ethiopian food place the other
day, and we were like, Dude, I would love. A lot of these things, who was it who said that travel is fatal
to racism and all these other things? Maybe Mark Twain said that. I don’t remember the exact quote.
It’s a good quote. Because as you see the world, we’re all the same. It doesn’t matter where you are,
we care about a lot of the same things. Most people care about their families, their kids, the place
they live. I think that’s really the things that unite us as people are… We have much more common
than the polarized things that divide us. I think that’s… I’m out of stomach. It’s the burning burgers.
That’s my problem. But it’s something I’ve thought about a lot lately, and I think it’s important. I think
your initiative in particular, your business, I think is really cool. I just thought it was super neat. To give
us a couple more of these, like a couple other places you say, Hey, check this place out. This is cool.

[00:15:07.720] – Lisa Peña
Thinking about one thing we do a lot on my own on hikes is we go through alleyways too, that are
filled with murals. And there’s a lot of alleyways in the crossroads, also in the east crossroads where
the breweries are, that are fine to walk through. And often people will, if someone’s not used to
walking through an alleyway, they might not even enter it. They might say, Oh, it’s an alleyway. I’m just
going to walk on the sidewalk. But I’ve scoped out all the routes and we walk through lots and lots of
alleyways. And so I recommend people do that on their own, maybe accompanied with someone. But
we go through alleyways a lot and see all kinds of really pretty murals.

[00:15:43.100] – David Maples
I think it’s one of those tropes. It’s like that’s how Batman’s parents were killed. It’s like a joke, right? I
know. No, I know we won’t say that on there. We’ll cut this. That’s fine. What? No, it’s just silly. But it’s
the assumption of these… You don’t cut down an alleyway. Yeah.

[00:15:58.450] – Lisa Peña
I feel like that’s what I tried on my urban hikes, I try to counter sometimes the assumptions that we
might have. And especially in Kansas City, it’s very easy to get used to living a comfortable life and
living in our community or neighborhood and not really venturing out. If we venture out, we’ll drive to
the one thing that we’re doing in this other place.

[00:16:21.880] – David Maples
You’re taking, by and large, Kansas Citians and you’re helping them truly discover their city. I’d like you
to talk a little bit about the discovery process and what they get when they go on an urban hike.

[00:16:33.680] – Lisa Peña
Yeah, the discovery process is actually a really cool element that we have that’s part of our urban
hikes. We’re leading the hikes. My guides and I have five different guides, and they know where the
group knows where we’re going to go more or less, but they’re not going to know all the ins and outs.
Something that is really fascinating for a lot of our hikers is to, for example, enter an alleyway that
maybe they’ve been on the roads around the alleyway but have never walked in that alleyway. Then
they see that there are three or four humongous murals, vibrant murals. Then we talk about the artist
as well, so that the hikers can learn about the artist, look them up. For some of them, we’ve been able
to find out the meaning behind the murals. And that just is really cool for the hiker because it’s like,
Wow, there’s this. I’m learning these new things. Another aspect of that adventure and that discovery
is often someone will just drive to the same places, go to the same places, and I’ll take them even one
street over, for example, there’s a street called Cesar Chavez Avenue that is parallel to Southwest
Boulevard. Everyone in Kansas City knows Southwest Boulevard, but many people haven’t walked on
Cesar Chavez Avenue. And on Cesar Chavez Avenue, there are some hidden steps. They’re about 140
steps, so you have to be ready to go up a ton of steps, but they’re literally in the hillside with trees on
both sides. And there are some houses that are in there that are pretty incredible, too, that you would
never guess. And I get that response from our hikers as well. This is so cool. It didn’t even feel like
Kansas City.

[00:18:17.260] – David Maples
If somebody wants to get involved, etc, in Kansas City and make it really help elevate the city, etc,
what is one actionable piece of advice you would like to share with them?

[00:18:28.440] – Lisa Peña
First of all, to make Kansas City accessible, we have free busses. And last year I started to take the
bus. I don’t always take it, but I found that I’m able to take the bus into downtown and it’s for pretty
much a straight shot. I’m also able to take the bus pretty easily to the airport. And that is something
that I think many Kansas Citians don’t ever do is take the bus. I think that is a way to make it more
accessible in a way that you’re actually on the ground and out of our cars. If somebody wants to get
involved in Kansas City, I think about the numerous nonprofits that we have. There is a nonprofit for
almost any vision or mission that somebody has. For example, we talked about walking around
Independence Avenue, and around Independence Avenue, there is a nonprofit called De La Lamb that
specifically works to resettle refugees in Kansas City. And there are many volunteer opportunities
with them. If people really like to get back to the parks and do cleanups, Kansas City, Missouri has a
program called the Kansas City ambassadors. And every week there are probably about 10 different
cleanup opportunities that are park cleanup opportunities that Kansas Citians can do. You could do
multiple cleanup opportunities in one week. I think just looking for either a nonprofit or a city entity for
whatever that interest is, there’s a way to give back.

[00:19:49.870] – David Maples
How do you personally stay informed, connected, and engaged in the Kansas City community?

[00:19:54.930] – Lisa Peña
I’m always out and about. That really helps because I’m literally walking around Kansas City, so I meet
business owners. I learn things that way. I also get the Kansas City Today newsletter, which is a free
newsletter that has a lot of Kansas City happenings. It’s really good, locally written, of course. I’m in
touch. I go to a lot of networking meetings. That has really been helpful just for me as a business
owner. Then I’m able to learn about what’s going on in Kansas City, and I meet people that way, and I
stay connected. I would say those are probably the ways, in addition to, like I said before, I’m always
out about.

[00:20:34.640] – David Maples
What do you love most about Kansas City and how does it help stand apart?

[00:20:39.830] – Lisa Peña
One thing that I really like about Kansas City is that you can find almost anything that you want to find
here outside of the ocean and the mountains. But if there’s a group, a specific interest group you’re
looking for, you can find that in Kansas City. People are mostly welcoming and really nice here. That
is something that the genuine friendliness of the people here and how they want to help you is real.
That’s one thing that sets us apart from other cities and just the fact that it seems like a small city, but
you can find whatever group you want to find here. Something I also love about Kansas City is that it’s
big enough so that you can constantly meet new people, find out about new businesses. But then at
the same time, once you get into a specific group like a young professional group or a specific group
around something, you will run into the same people, and that’s a neat thing.

[00:21:37.320] – David Maples
I have to ask, the best barbecue in Kansas City? What is it and where is it?

[00:21:44.450] – Lisa Peña
My opinion is that the best barbecue is Joe’s KC, and it is in a gas station.

[00:21:50.640] – David Maples
What should you get there if you go to Joe’s?

[00:21:53.860] – Lisa Peña
I always get the ribs. Get the ribs? Yes, or the Zman sandwich. Either one, the Zman.

[00:21:59.540] – David Maples
What is the Zman sandwich?

[00:22:01.560] – Lisa Peña
The Zman is a delicious sandwich that has either brisket or you can get a vegetarian one that has a
smoked portabella mushroom and it has an onion ring on it. Then you can get it with cheese and then,
of course, you put your barbecue sauce on it. It’s heavenly.

[00:22:18.280] – David Maples
Are there any local leaders or influences in Kansas City that inspire you? If so, who are they and why
do they inspire you?

[00:22:26.930] – Lisa Peña
I meet a lot of local leaders in Kansas City through my networking meetings, through my urban hikes,
we go to a lot of businesses. One business that really inspires me is Café Corazón. Café Corazón is
owned by a family. It’s a husband, wife, and their daughter. They have brought Latin-infused coffee to
Kansas City. They sell things that you can’t find in other places like Yerba mate, which is a really
common South American drink, but you can’t find it anywhere else in the Midwest. They, at the same
time, have… They started their business around the same time I started Urban Hikes, Kansas City
about four years ago, and I’ve seen them grow. At the same time, we go work to there, we stop
sometimes on our coffee, urban hike there. But they’re just so very giving and very supportive of just
the community. They want everyone to come into their coffee shop and the coffee, their products are
really different than anywhere else.

[00:23:31.850] – David Maples
Where are they located?

[00:23:33.170] – Lisa Peña
They’re located on Southwest Boulevard in Baltimore, and they also have a Westport location.

[00:23:39.900] – David Maples
Very cool. What do you see as the future of Kansas City and what role do you hope to play in that
future?

[00:23:46.200] – Lisa Peña
I definitely see Kansas City growing a lot. As I mentioned, a lot of people are moving here, which is
exciting. I see that we have a lot of new developments as well. I think Kansas City is just going to
continue to become an even more vibrant city. I hope that my business can continue to show it off
through our urban hikes with hikers on the weekends, with corporate groups, with whoever wants to
learn about the city, we show it off. As it grows, we’ll be showing off those new things. That’s what I
hope to do.

[00:24:28.190] – David Maples
Are there any other local events or organizations or places that you think people should know about?

[00:24:35.660] – Lisa Peña
Yes. Thinking about local events that I think everyone should know about, one of them is the Third
Fridays art walk. That is in Kansas City, Kansets. It’s in the Strawberry Hill area. It’s this festival, they
close off Sixth Street and all kinds of artists come, local vendors come, and it’s a really cool
atmosphere. It’s really fun. You can get food, you can hear live music. We always have an urban hike
that goes from there. There’s art everywhere. You can buy art, you can sell art. It is such a cool event.
It’s similar to the Crossroads’ First Fridays, but on a smaller scale, and in Kansas City, Kansas. I think
that that’s one that a lot of people don’t know about because Kansas City, Kansas doesn’t always get
the promotion or doesn’t always get that it needs. A lot of people don’t know about it. But if you go to
that festival, it’s super cool. I think that festival and then I also think that Kansas City, we should get
out on our hiking trails more. For example, West Bend State Park has some really good hiking. I was
there recently and it almost feels like a tropical rainforest with our humidity and the huge plants
everywhere. We have lots of native papa plants there and there’s trails that go down to the Missouri
River and we have other great trails, for example, at Windot County Lake. I think that that’s what I want
to get the word out about our actual nature hiking trails that we have in Kansas City and the third
Fridays art walk.

[00:26:13.960] – David Maples
Okay. If people want to get involved, I’d like you to talk a little bit more about Urban Hikes. I’d like you
to, just for a minute, I’d like to know a little bit more about your business. First of all, tell me what the
hikes are. How do you plan them? How do you schedule them? How many people we take on one?
What does that look like? And how do they get involved? They want to take one of these hikes?

[00:26:36.890] – Lisa Peña
Yeah. If somebody wants to take a hike, the best first step is to go to our website, urbanhikeskc.com.
On our website, we have a list of all of the hikes. Right now, we have about 10 different routes. We
often, though, have 2-3 routes on a Saturday that’s open for the public. We usually have a Friday night
hike, and we sometimes have some Sunday hikes. We have a calendar that someone can look
through to see what are the upcoming hikes that we have for that weekend or for whenever they want
to come out. We also do a whole lot of urban hikes for private groups like corporate groups or maybe
someone has a birthday party. We’ve had surprise hikes for someone who is having a birthday and it
was a surprise for them, bachelorette parties. We do it for any group that wants to have an urban hike,
and all they need to do is just reach out to us and then we can plan it. It’s usually a version of a hike
that we already have, but we can customize it for them. We have about 12-15 people on our hikes. For
example, if someone comes on a weekend, we usually cap it at 12-15. We do kids hikes, too,
sometimes, like Girl Scouts and we sometimes have more because of having a troupe. Really, people
just reach out to us. We have a monthly newsletter on my website. There’s a button that somebody
can click if they would like to sign up for our monthly newsletter.

[00:27:58.830] – David Maples
Are there any particular new hikes that you have coming up that you want to tease? Maybe? I don’t
know. Is there anything new you’re working on?

[00:28:06.660] – Lisa Peña
Yeah. Well, recently I did a progressive dinner, urban hike, and that’s the one that Jan Jensen was on. I
am considering doing that again where we go to a couple of different restaurants. It’s different
because we’re not doing as much exercises. We’re still walking and still seeing cool things and we
actually stop to eat some things at different places. That’s something that is in the works. I also have
been in touch with Waldo, the Waldo Business Association. They reached out to me to have an urban
hike and that’s something that would be probably for fall of 2024, but we’re working on that. That’s
something just to be in eye out for that. What I found is that the opportunities for hikes are endless.
There are so many good ideas, and it’s just the time to be able to develop them all.

[00:29:01.120] – David Maples
Well, with that, is there anything else you’d like to tell our listeners?

[00:29:07.250] – Lisa Peña
Yeah, well, I don’t know if we can add one more thing that I want people to know about. Sure. Okay.
When I think about what I would like people to know about, there is a trail called the Riverfront
Heritage Trail, and it’s a 15-mile urban trail that goes from Kansas City, Kansas to Kansas City,
Missouri. It waves through a lot of neighborhoods. If someone wanted to do the whole trail at one
time, it’s important to actually look at a map to do it. But it’s peppered with all this cool artwork and it
covers two states. It’s a really good route for a biking route if somebody wanted to bike it. That’s
something that I want to get the word out about that. It’s a trail that we have, an urban trail that we
have.

[00:29:54.150] – David Maples
Unrelated, but might be. Go ahead. You got something else. You have something else?

[00:29:58.150] – Lisa Peña
Going back to my urban hikes and describe that. We also have a bike ride. It is along the Lewis and
Clark monuments, and we do that about once a month.

[00:30:12.070] – David Maples
Wow! That is ridiculous because I was about to ask the most famous trail going through Kansas City
is the Lewis and Clark historical trail. I was about to ask, do you have anything that’s involved with
that? Oh, no.

[00:30:22.160] – Lisa Peña
That is really funny. Do you want to ask.

[00:30:23.680] – David Maples
A question and then I’ll answer it? Yeah, no, I was going to ask. I was like, Well, the most famous trail
going through Kansas City is the Lewis and Clark historical trail. Do you have anything that’s related to
that at all?

[00:30:33.920] – Lisa Peña
I don’t believe you’re asking about that because we actually do. We have a bike ride, and it’s called the
Lewis and Clark bike ride. We start at Ca Point, where Lewis and Clark spent three days, and we talk a
lot about the history there. Then we ride into Missouri and go to Case Park and we go to other and
along the Riverfront, Heritage Trail along the Berklee Riverfront. We talk all about the history of Lewis
and Clark and their travels. Then we do that with our bike ride.

[00:31:01.910] – David Maples
Yeah, that’s very cool. Well, Lisa, I want to thank you. I can’t thank you enough for being on the show
today. This was really a lot of fun. I was really excited to learn more about urban hikes because we’d
like to book one of those very shortly.

[00:31:14.570] – Lisa Peña
Thank you. It’s been really fun talking to you. I definitely hope you come out soon for an urban hike.

[00:31:19.470] – David Maples
Absolutely.

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